In this episode of ‘A Middle Ground’, we speak to Anthony Albanese, the Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, and Cities, and Shadow Minister for Tourism. He tells Nance Haxton the policy detail that we rarely have the opportunity to hear, and also gives an insight into how he stays motivated after 23 years in Federal Parliament. Griffith University Professor of Politics and Policy Peter van Onselen also gives his perspective on why Anthony Albanese’s popularity endures.